A while back I
wrote about a recent
paper in Nature challenging the expensive tissue hypothesis. The lead author of the paper, Ana Navarrete, contacted me, sending me supplemental data, since I didn't have full access to the Nature paywall, and she agreed to do an interview about her paper.
Ana Navarrete got her PhD at the Anthropological Institute and Museum of the University of Zurich. She is currently a research assistant at the University of St Andrews.
Your recent paper in Nature apparently demolishes ETH as proposed by Aiello and Wheeler. Could you give us a lay summary of the paper and it's conclusions?
You say that our study “demolishes” the ETH, but that sound really harsh. Although our results show that there is no evidence for the ETH in mammals and primates, but that does not mean that the significance of the ETH should be minimalized. Its presentation in 1995 fuelled the field of the study of the costs of encephalization, which is actually growing and focusing lots of interest. We were therefore very happy when Leslie Aeillo turned out to be one of our reviewers and provided us with very interesting feedback. We coincided that the results show that mammals do not show energetic trade-offs between tissues, but that the ETH could still highlight aspects of human evolution, although this will need at some point further demonstration.
To summarize our study, we used data obtained from the dissections of a sample of 100 mammal species, which included 23 primate species, to test possible correlations between brain size and the size of other expensive organs. We found no evidence for a correlation between brain size and digestive tract size in these groups. Moreover, we found no correlation between brain size and the size of heart, kidneys and liver, which are traditionally considered expensive organs. In this aspect, we rejected the Expensive Tissue Hypothesis. However, when analyzing correlation between brain size and other less expensive, but more abundant tissues, which also could consume high quantities of energy, we found a negative correlation between brain size and the accumulations of adipose tissues. We interpret here that having big brains and large adipose depots are strategies which can be beneficial for survival, but most animals either take one or the other because both options are costly. Big brains are associated with higher cognitive abilities, but need lots of energy. Large adipose depots can help to buffer periods of unavoidable starvation, but in great quantities they can be very costly in terms of locomotion. Therefore, most mammal species either increase their brains or accumulate more fat. However, species with types of locomotion which allow them to transport more fat with less costs should be able to combine both strategies. It would be the case of aquatic or bipedal animals, like humans. We humans have large brains and large accumulations of adipose tissue.
You write: "However, species with types of locomotion [bipedal and aquatic] which allow them to transport more fat with less costs should be able to combine both strategies." I realize birds aren't mammals, but I thought of the ostrich as a bipedal animal that might be able to employ this strategy also, yet is not famous for its brain size. Any thoughts on this?
First of all, our results refer to mammals specifically. We suppose that brain evolution is constrained energetically in birds, as well, but these energetic constrains must be different. In birds, we do not observe the correlation between brain and metabolism that we observe in mammals. Additionally, the correlation between brain and adipose tissue is unlikely to be present in birds because the size of adipose accumulations is restrained so that it does not hinder locomotion efficiency. Previous work of Karin Isler and Carel van Schaik, however, shows that there is a negative correlation between the brain size and the size of the pectoral muscle, the most important muscle involved in flight. In birds, locomotion efficiency also constrains brain size, but not in the same way as in mammals.
Now, ostriches don't fly. They are bipedal like humans. They have small brains. My guess here is that, although these animals lost the capacity to fly, which allowed them to accumulate more fat, their ancestors lived under conditions where enhanced cognitive abilities were not a requisite for survival. Both encephalization and fat storage are strategies to avoid periods of unavoidable starvation. This means that, if a species is relying on ephemeral food, it has either to get smarter o get fatter to survive. But species that rely on low-quality food that is always available (grass, leaves, etc) or species that live in habitats where seasonality is low, may be able to survive without using either of these strategies. As a matter of fact, in our sample of mammals, be found that there was no correlation between brain mass and fat storage mass in tropical species. We concluded that this was caused by the fact that habitats in the tropics are less seasonal.
Could you talk a little bit about the special case you saw for primates and the data from wild vs captive species?
We expected to find the same negative correlation between brain mass and adipose tissue in primates as we found in mammals, but, as you saw in our publication, we were not able to provide this correlation. This has awakened criticisms about the credibility of our results. However, we are convinced that the negative correlation must be there, but that we were not able to find it because our specimens were animals whose total adipose tissue accumulations I wasn’t able to measure directly, so we had to set a proxy based on abdominal fat. We suspect that our approximation underestimated the amount of fat of these animals, which would not be strange considering that they were captive individuals. Future study either using carcasses of wild primates or using complete measurements of captive primates will be needed to test the correlation anew.
Captivity is known to influence body composition. Captive animals do not perceive environmental fluctuation, such as food scarcity or changes in temperature. They also tend to be less active as wild specimens because lack of space. Moreover, diet composition in captivity tends to differ significantly from diet composition in the wild. A combination of these factors (different diet, reduced mobility and immunity to environmental fluctuations) is often called to explain either overweight or underweight in captive individuals or differences in internal morphology between wild and captive individuals of the same species. We therefore controlled for captivity effects. Our results showed captivity weakens the correlation between brain mass and adipose tissue, because the correlation between these two variables turned stronger when only wild specimens were included in the analyses, and it disappears when only captive specimens are analyzed.
ETH has been used by the paleo/ancestral diet community as a justification for a diet high in animal products. Likewise, your paper was recently argued by vegans (such as PaleoVegan) as proof that animal products weren't responsible for encephalization, hence unnecessary for a modern diet even from an evolutionary standpoint. Would you care to speculate on what you see as the larger dietary implications of your paper?
I always found interesting that people would use the ETH for this paleodiet debate, because the hypothesis only refers indirectly on diet. And I also find interesting that people are arguing about what our results mean for the debate. Additionally, there is the fact that the whole debate is mainly used to discuss how the diet of actual humans should be. And here we incur into the risk of forgetting that our ancestors lived in very different circunstances, under very different pressures, exploited different resources and lacked of other resources available to modern man.
Just to make clear our impact in this debate: our results on the ETH just disprove the expected morphological trade-off between brain mass and digestive tract mass. Our study does not make any verdict on the diet of our ancestors. In our framework, we still consider that diet quality played an important role in human brain evolution, and a higher quality in diet would have been achieved through meat consumption, but with the introduction of cooking, which would have reduced overall costs of digestion and granted access to other high quality items of non-animal origin, such as tubers, which are hardly edible when raw. I would say that the addition of high quality resources of animal AND vegetal origin allowed us to increase our brains.
Dr Navarrete noted separately, "Also, I really had problems answering your [last] question. Although I am familiar with the paleodiet debate, I am really uncomfortable when the ETH (or our study) is cited in it because I consider that its reference is misplaced (it just discuss morphological trade-offs, but does not discuss diet but as a possible factor triggering gut reduction). This is also the reason why we did not concerned ourselves to speculate about it."